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Small thing, perhaps, but not sure why it wanted to do this. --Pi zero (discuss • contribs) 01:24, 16 January 2018 (UTC)

Thank you, I'll release a patch this evening. JackPotte (discuss • contribs) 07:25, 16 January 2018 (UTC)

Category deletions and moves

Cheers for those moves and deletions. Green Giant (discuss • contribs) 18:11, 18 January 2018 (UTC)

Why do you call people a Newbie?

Doesn't that seem a bit rude? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 2607:fcc8:66ca:1400:5cab:f7c4:cdc7:59a (discuss • contribs) 19:13, 1 February 2018

Maybe, what would you propose instead? I think that "beginner" doesn't apply to the other wikis users. JackPotte (discuss • contribs) 08:23, 2 February 2018 (UTC)

I've often used "newcomer". --Pi zero (discuss • contribs)

New book on DOS

Hi there, 'good to find you here !

I stumbled across a PDF book for which i haven't yet located an HTML version, so i figured i'd bring it in one of the Wikimedia projects, and this site seems like the correct choice (I hardly ever find myself here, but looking around just now, it looks pretty good, i should come here more often). Another reason why i'm searching to add it around here is that its punctuation is a bit annoying at times, and some overdone sentences could use simplification, so i'd give it a copyedit too. To sum this up : internal links for navigation, and a more fluent text.

The book in question is First steps towards system programming under MS-DOS 7, which i found there. I also see a version at Scribd, but in the same format, and you have to have an account there to be able to read it. The copyright license at the header of the book seems to satisfy the requirements stated at WB:COPY.

Should the import of this book happen, there are embedded screenshots to extract from the PDF document. Finding out how to extract those would take me some research, but perhaps you already know, or know someone who does ? (To find those illustrations, search for "fig. " in the text.)

BTW i haven't yet found how to start a page in this wiki which does not seem configured quite the same as the other ones that i'm used to: Wikipedia, Wiktionary (where we've previously "met"), and Wikisource. WB:NEW seems to skip over that detail. At those other projects, i type in the future title of the page to be created and hit search, it doesn't find it and offers me to create it (red link). Here, the search results don't seem to make that offer.

Would you be willing to look into that, and perhaps help me start the base work, so that i can edit it ? I envision just one long page with the chapters as sections, as contrasts with a separate subpage for each chapter, but perhaps that is not the acceptable format around here ?

Merci d'avance, et à bientôt —Jerome Charles Potts (discuss • contribs) 06:06, 10 February 2018 (UTC)

Hello, basically commons:Commons:Tools doesn't provide anything to convert a PDF in wikicode, so this should be a manual operation.

A long book without any subpage is admissible, but it will be classified in the maintenance with {{split}}.

The absence of red link in the researches came from MediaWiki:Searchmenu-new, but I've just improved it as you've suggested.

Best regards. JackPotte (discuss • contribs) 07:22, 10 February 2018 (UTC)

Deletion on List of principals of Carey Ridge elementry School

Why did you delete list of Principles of Carey Ridge Elementary School? Jhonh3360 (discuss • contribs) 18:30, 23 February 2018 (UTC)

Hello, the page was clearly not a pedagogic book in its state, so I've applied Wikibooks:What is Wikibooks?#Wikibooks is not a free wiki host or webspace provider. JackPotte (discuss • contribs) 18:42, 23 February 2018 (UTC)

What is that supposed to mean Jhonh3360 (discuss • contribs) 19:41, 23 February 2018 (UTC)

Flagging my article

Hey, you flagged my first article, 9-1 Physics with "Was this page created by accident or as a test?". I am not entirely familiar with all of the rules for wikipedia contributions (especially on wikibooks) but I intend to write (fairly actively) on this project. Please could you remove the banner?

I hope we can resolve this. - Neutrinopenguin 19:29, 31/03/2018

@Neutrinopenguin: hello, the only reason why I've put this flag is because the current content of it does not constitute an exploitable book. You can replace it by {{stub}} for example, but as long as it's indexed in the search engine, while it's not really worth been read, a maintenance banner should warn the visitors. JackPotte (discuss • contribs) 18:41, 31 March 2018 (UTC)

@JackPotte: I'm very sorry but I don't understand what you mean. What do you mean by a stub? (Sorry) but could you please help me? (Please bare in mind I am very new to wikipedia and wikibooks) Okay I understand perfectly, just read up about it. Will do. Thanks for the help. - Neutrinopenguin 19:43, 31/03/2018

Skunks?

I started a new book on skunks but you deleted it why? I want to help make it grow.

--Arabia619 (discuss • contribs) 19:58, 7 April 2018 (UTC)

According to Wikibooks:Deletion_policy#Speedy_deletions. Actually, we can't index pages like that in our search engine: this would hide the real books:

This book is all about skunks.

They are black and white and have a foul odor.

So, I invite you to use your personal sandbox to make your idea grow. JackPotte (discuss • contribs) 20:07, 7 April 2018 (UTC)

deletion of pantaxerca userpage and use discussion page

Hi @JackPotte: My name is Greg - I'm an instructor working on a class project for University of Stirling. I've been alerted to the deletion of the above user page (pantaxerca), This is a student who is working on the class project, and has an extension on the project which is time-limited. Could you please reinstate the user page and notify us both? With thanks GregXenon01 (discuss • contribs) 13:58, 9 April 2018 (UTC)

@GregXenon01, JackPotte: Hi. I've tentatively restored the page, as it looks reasonably harmless to me. Hope that's okay, JackPotte; don't mean to step on any toes. --Pi zero (discuss • contribs) 14:28, 9 April 2018 (UTC)

Yes, I apologize for the inconvenience. JackPotte (discuss • contribs) 14:50, 9 April 2018 (UTC)

Don't be sorry, it's a copyright violation which is why it was deleted. It's a relatively common problem with class projects - I usually have to put an edit notice on the new books warning them of the consequences of ignoring copyright as there are so many instances of Internet "copy / paste". QuiteUnusual (discuss • contribs) 15:01, 9 April 2018 (UTC)

@JackPotte, QuiteUnusual, Pi zero: Thanks all - I refer to my other recent comment on this. It has been an exceptionally difficult class project to process this year because of various real-life class issues, where in other iterations this sort of thing would have been anticipated and avoided much earlier. GregXenon01 (discuss • contribs) 15:06, 12 April 2018 (UTC)

Wikibooks:Edit_filter/False_positives#Aubreyzip

Hi,

Did you look at ZipRecruiter.com? It is a completely relevant resource to the other resources listed. Can you please assist me in adding it? Thank you~Aubrey

@Aubreyzip: actually the site relevance is not the reason why the Wikibooks filters can't accept this link. In fact, our consensual policy, and it's the same on Wikipedia, says that the project is not financed to be a link farm like DMOZ, and we can't guaranty these sites contents by checking them regularly, this is more like the Google job.

Concerning the few links which were already present into Find Employment/Your Career and could have confused you, they had been posted by the book author, which is a kind of exception because we consider that he has respected the policy first so he might add a few references into his books. JackPotte (discuss • contribs) 23:15, 13 April 2018 (UTC)

Well do you know how I can get in touch with the author? I am only trying to assist people looking for employment and have found ZipRecruiter to be very helpful. Thank you.

Apparently, Whiteknight didn't come here for a while. JackPotte (discuss • contribs) 17:26, 16 April 2018 (UTC)

Brime spammer

So spambots do actually update and edit the pages quite frequently but unfortunately I can't show you diffs from other projects, especially wikinews where this often happens. However, this is an xwiki spammer regardless of whether they are a bot and this is not in-line with the project so deletion for spam still applies. Chrissymad (discuss • contribs) 14:55, 9 May 2018 (UTC)

See also the other xwiki spam. That's all this account is being used for. Chrissymad (discuss • contribs) 14:57, 9 May 2018 (UTC)

I appreciate your concern for the maintenance but nothing proves that it's a bot or a spam. I understand that this page had been deleted on Commons, but here it's a relevant draft. JackPotte (discuss • contribs) 15:07, 9 May 2018 (UTC)

It has been identified and glocked as a spambot. Chrissymad (discuss • contribs) 15:27, 9 May 2018 (UTC)

Whitelist

Hi JackPotte!

Firstly, thank you to control biochemistry book.

I am whitelist at Wikipedia(tr). Thus I know the general rules about wiki.

I think that being whitelist in wikibook will be better to contribute much more efficiently.

So, What should I do t be a whitelist? Mertmetin96 (discuss • contribs) 01:05, 16 May 2018 (UTC)

@Mertmetin96: hello, on Wikibooks, the right is automatically attributed by MediaWiki after a certain time and number of contributions. JackPotte (discuss • contribs) 07:04, 16 May 2018 (UTC)

@JackPotte: Thanks for your fast response :).Mertmetin96 (discuss • contribs) 07:17, 16 May 2018 (UTC)

Speedy delete b:History of wireless telegraphy and broadcasting in Australia

Hello Jack. Around the time I started this book, you placed a "Speedy Delete" banner on the article. At the time you did this the book was just an outline. I have been working on the article for a week now, mainly extracting public domain material from National Library of Australia's TROVE. It is shaping up nicely. I was mostly working on Nauru (a former mandated territory of Australia). That material is nearing completion and I have spun it off in (to be) condensed form to Wikipedia as w:History of wireless telegraphy and broadcasting in Nauru. Would you now please remove the "Speedy Delete" banner, I don't see any point in continuing to work on the book if it can all be deleted at any time. Thanks--Samuel.dellit (discuss • contribs) 08:53, 21 May 2018 (UTC)

Done JackPotte (discuss • contribs) 09:00, 21 May 2018 (UTC)

Thank you so much, now for the hard part of continuing development, again, many thanks--Samuel.dellit (discuss • contribs) 09:09, 21 May 2018 (UTC)

If you have more

please just add them: User:Mathmensch/sandbox --Mathmensch (discuss • contribs) 18:09, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

Deletion of Learn about CA

It's not a test page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by U$3rname008 (talk • contribs)

@U$3rname008: hello and sorry for the deletion of Learn about Celluar Automata(CA), but the page doesn't respect the Wikibooks:Naming policy and its style is stubby.

Moreover, as it's a collaborative project, we're not supposed to sign books in their introductions because they can be improved by anyone.

So I've just restored it to your space User:U$3rname008/Sandbox. Please feel free to rename it in the books space when it will be ready. JackPotte (discuss • contribs) 07:33, 7 June 2018 (UTC)

writing a book

Hello I was thinking about writing a book but I need someone to help me out and walk me through the process can you help me Sanezedope (discuss • contribs) 09:09, 24 June 2018 (UTC)

Yes, I've read this three times (in Wikibooks:Reading room/Projects and Wikibooks talk:Reading room/Projects. But from my experience, it's very hard to hire a volunteer like this because every one here has already their own agenda. JackPotte (discuss • contribs) 11:37, 24 June 2018 (UTC)

Creating a book is dead simple: go to edit your user page and type the book title you want, in double square brackets like this: [[My Book Title]] . Hit Preview, you'll see a redlink on your page that says My Book Title. Click the redlink (I generally right-click and Open in New Tab), the editor will open and you can start writing your new book in the editor. (You can also go back to your user page and cancel your edit if you want, or you can leave that link there as a link to the books you're working on.)

You can create your table of contents the same way, by putting a bunch of entries on the page you've just created, in double square brackets like [[My Book Title/Chapter 1|Chapter 1: The Beginning]] (what's after the vertical bar us what it looks like, what's before it is where it will go to). The first time you click the link it will create the page for that chapter.

Beyond that, I'm afraid, nobody can really help. Every book is different as to its layout, intent, and style, and only the authors of that book can really help there. Editing help is available in the editor itself, but of course that's more fine detail. And most of us on here have our own books that we're working on... Chazz (talk) 18:17, 24 June 2018 (UTC)

IKnowWhenDatHotlineBling

Hi, Today I encountered with a user who is an vandalist and has the user name IKnowWhenDatHotlineBling Please have a look for the thing He/she done at Biochemistry/Conversion of pyruvate to acetyl CoA. Mertmetin96 (discuss • contribs) 07:23, 26 June 2018 (UTC)

Done Problem solved. JackPotte (discuss • contribs) 07:35, 26 June 2018 (UTC)

RadioGatún

The purpose of this page will be to describe how to implement the algorithm RadioGatún. I could put this content on the Wikipedia, but the purpose of the Wikipedia page is to summarize the algorithm and its believed security, as per reliable sources. Over the years, deletionists have made it clear that describing a cryptographic algorithm in sufficient detail to implement it is something for Wikibooks.

My plan is to describe RadioGatun in sufficient detail to allow someone to implement it. “This is a belt. This is a mill. This is how to perform the BeltMill operation (yes, the belt is distinct from the mill in the RG spec, but my experience making multiple real world implementations is that combining the two simplifies things from both a conceptual and coding standpoint). This is how to optimize the mill for speed. This is how to map an input in to a RadioGatun 32/64 state. This is how to pull cryptographically secure pseudo-random numbers from the RG state.”

Is there any reason why this content would not be welcome in Wikibooks? Samboy (discuss • contribs) 00:14, 30 June 2018 (UTC)

{{query}} means that the article should be developed in a book to be admissible. But if it's long enough it could be sorted in Category:One-page books.

@Samboy: personally I think that the best would be to rename your page as a subpage of Cryptography. JackPotte (discuss • contribs) 10:12, 30 June 2018 (UTC)

NVQ level 2 site carpentry

I desperaely need this article to help me pass my apprenticeship, please help me get it undeleted https://en.wikibooks.org/w/index.php?title=NVQ_Carpentry_Level_2&action=edit&redlink=1

@NVQneedhelp: this page author, NVQ level 3 brickwork had asked for its removal. Please check with him. JackPotte (discuss • contribs) 14:34, 25 July 2018 (UTC)

I cant find the author from that page as its deleted, is there a way the NVQ carpentry book can be undeleted, my deadline is days away and that material is crucial

@NVQneedhelp: OK, so i've just restored it on User:NVQneedhelp/NVQ Carpentry Level 2, and I will redelete it in two days. JackPotte (discuss • contribs) 14:49, 25 July 2018 (UTC)

Thank you so much!

Please can you re-upload this is extremely useful

level 2 carpentry

please can you re upload the level 2 carpentry document or send it to me as I found this file extremely useful and has helped me a lot!

Apparently there isn't any deleted page named "carpentry" something. JackPotte (discuss • contribs) 17:31, 26 July 2018 (UTC)

nvq level 2 carpentry

Hi can you please up load or send me the nvq level 2 carpentry as i was still learning from it and found it useful. thanks

Iv only got to September to had in my course work and really need it to pass my course i found it so useful please please undelete it. Lemmygod (discuss • contribs) 11:51, 28 July 2018 (UTC)

@Lemmygod: you have it now on User:Lemmygod/NVQ Carpentry Level 2. JackPotte (discuss • contribs) 14:27, 29 July 2018 (UTC)

CARPENTRY NVQ LEVEL 2

Hello there,

I see you deleted the carpentry nvq level 2 book! I was just wondering whether you could reupload it or send it to me privately as I see it sometime last week and it was ideal for the current ciriculum, it was a vital help, yet I only got part of the way through and really do need it to help complete this section of my qualification.

I hope you can understand the urgency of this discussion.

Thank you

C.Spencer Chayspence (discuss • contribs) 07:43, 30 July 2018 (UTC)

I invite you to read the paragraph just above. JackPotte (discuss • contribs) 07:49, 30 July 2018 (UTC)

Just popping in, think it's better to just restore the page to original location for now; after all, there is contributive material and could be tagged with the {{Outdated}} template instead. Leaderboard (discuss • contribs) 17:16, 30 July 2018 (UTC)

Good idea! JackPotte (discuss • contribs) 17:51, 30 July 2018 (UTC)

NVQ Diploma in Trowel Occupations

Good Evening JackPotte

I hope you are well.

I can see that the carpentry unit has been restored as a result of a few requests. I found the Trowel occupations unit extremely helpful and insightful Is there anyway of providing me with a copy or undoing the delete, even if it is only temporary .

Many thanks in advance

Michael

Sorry but I didn't write this book and I didn't delete anything about a trowel. JackPotte (discuss • contribs) 20:00, 1 August 2018 (UTC)

Edit filter

Hi, are autoconfirmed users extempt from the common edit filters? Because Matthius is, and you've just told him that newcomers can't post references, so what group should he be in? Leaderboard (discuss • contribs) 10:52, 18 August 2018 (UTC)

@Leaderboard: Special:AbuseFilter/38 doesn't use the autoconfirmed user property because many spammers create their accounts several days before spamming. But as you can see, it can use the edit count. JackPotte (discuss • contribs) 10:58, 18 August 2018 (UTC)

CU

I think Wikibooks needs another CU, considering that QU is busy as a steward and Xania is inactive, as it will help the community in better detecting multiple-user vandalism. Would you be ready to try for CheckUser? Leaderboard (discuss • contribs) 16:11, 23 August 2018 (UTC)

I'm flattered that you've thought about me, but since my beginnings here in 2008, I've never seen the shade of a CU request. Apparently, there isn't any need for Wikibooks:Reading room/Check users Assistance. JackPotte (discuss • contribs) 16:59, 23 August 2018 (UTC)

The use for CU is less about users requesting it and more of you helping the community using the tool. I cite examples of the AnoynomousJusticex socks and even the clever Physics vandalism (which I was suspicious about but was unable to act without CU proof). As for being flattered, it's simple. You are an admin who blocks users and deletes pages properly (the main use for CU), and also that there is no one else who could do it (myself and another being legally blocked, and others being inactive or unwilling). There are only two CU users, one of which is inactive, and that's another factor for this request. Leaderboard (discuss • contribs) 17:12, 23 August 2018 (UTC)

OK, I'll think about it... JackPotte (discuss • contribs) 17:42, 23 August 2018 (UTC)

Wikibooks:Edit_filter/URL requests

What do you think of this?

The main difference is that unlike a user merely reporting a false positive and then simply being told that they have to wait, users could propose their modification (using the same template, as sysops can see the user's proposed edit anyway) and then we could just incorporate it for them directly. It's not live yet, but I'm looking for feedback before deploying it (which would involve simply modifying the templates).

Leaderboard (discuss • contribs) 12:24, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

It sounds good enough for me. JackPotte (discuss • contribs) 12:29, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

User:Methodios/Gérard de Brogne

Good morning, you have deleteted a work basis. User:Methodios/Gérard de Brogne is not a book here - User:Methodios/Gérard de Brogne is just a user page and a basis in German to translate to English. I translate(d) from French (or Latin etc.) in German as a first step. --Methodios (discuss • contribs) 13:40, 27 September 2018 (UTC)

@Methodios: I have restored the page at here (JackPotte: I think that the user's request is genuine). Leaderboard (discuss • contribs) 14:39, 27 September 2018 (UTC)

Thank you very much.--Methodios (discuss • contribs) 14:58, 27 September 2018 (UTC)

Henry Hoenigswald

A bibliography is not an encyclopedia article. Is a bibliography not an appropriate thing for a wikibook? --Tibetologist (discuss • contribs) 17:40, 6 October 2018 (UTC)

@Tibetologist: yes actually, you can read this in our policy Wikibooks:What is Wikibooks?. JackPotte (discuss • contribs) 18:18, 6 October 2018 (UTC)

Please point me to the subsection you have in mind. I have searched the page for 'bibliography' and I do not get any hits. --Tibetologist (discuss • contribs) 19:09, 6 October 2018 (UTC)

At the very beginning: Wikibooks is for textbooks, annotated texts, instructional guides, and manuals. JackPotte (discuss • contribs) 19:18, 6 October 2018 (UTC)

Intriguing, can you tell me how long this textbook stipulation has been in place, and what the effect would be on books of long standing, for example those that started in circa 2009, were never objected to, and have multiple contributors? Also, do you know of a wikiproject that would be more suitable for materials (e.g. bibliographies) that are useful in pedagogical settings but are not text books per se. --Tibetologist (discuss • contribs) 19:31, 6 October 2018 (UTC)

Regarding your recent deletions

They seem to be confused students part of a class project - which is the reason why I and Pi zero held off from deleting them. I've tried to contact the one who apparently leads the project - User:Hannah Evans (WMUK). You might want to restore some of them for now. Leaderboard (discuss • contribs) 20:09, 16 November 2018 (UTC)

Could you please be a little more specific? For example, this book promotion is totally unacceptable, large course or not. JackPotte (discuss • contribs) 20:16, 16 November 2018 (UTC)

That does not look like a book promotion - I'd say that this looks like some students discussing on potential ideas. Same is true with this for instance @Pi zero:. I've only deleted those which contain virtually no content. Leaderboard (discuss • contribs) 20:35, 16 November 2018 (UTC)

@Leaderboard: I strongly disagree about the fact that a page which only points to a sell site (get the book for 12$) is not a promotion. JackPotte (discuss • contribs) 21:38, 16 November 2018 (UTC)

That could easily be notes or references for them to keep in mind. See the users' contribution history. Leaderboard (discuss • contribs) 11:01, 17 November 2018 (UTC)

I had. JackPotte (discuss • contribs) 11:05, 17 November 2018 (UTC)

Hi @Leaderboard:, JackPotte- It is indeed a class project of 150 students using Wikibook's sandboxes to eventually create a Wikibook on 'Approaches to Knowledge'. As the majority of editing is taking place in their and their seminar leader's sandboxes, it would be much appreciated if these pages are not deleted, as it causes a large hindrance to the course, which aims to be developing the student's digital and information literacy skills in the process by working together in their sandboxes. They have been discouraged to create official book pages until their chapters are complete. The content of the eventual book will be looking into Knowledge, through the lenses of Evidence, Imperialism and Truth- and will not be promotional material of any kind. Do let me know if you have nay further questions, Hannah Evans (WMUK) (discuss • contribs) 13:28, 21 November 2018 (UTC)

@Hannah Evans (WMUK): Are there any deleted pages that you need restored? Sandbox pages aren't usually deleted anyway. Leaderboard (discuss • contribs) 13:30, 21 November 2018 (UTC)

Might also consider making, and editing, a subpage of the user page rather than the sandbox, as some wikis autoclear sandboxes... I know the main sandbox here gets cleaned periodically. Chazz (talk) 16:51, 21 November 2018 (UTC)

Your bot

Is it possible you can use your bot to revert all of this user's edits? It definitely is a work that is tedious and time-consuming, so I think it is perfect for your bot, JackBot, to go ahead and do that work for us ;-)

Thanks. --Atcovi (Talk - Contribs) 03:52, 15 December 2018 (UTC)

@Atcovi: normally this JS tool would do the trick but for some reasons it doesn't work with this account (maybe because it's locked). So I'm going to unarchive my revocator bot (which can even block in option). JackPotte (discuss • contribs) 11:48, 15 December 2018 (UTC)

I thought that was already done? Can't see (current) in any of the user's contributions... Leaderboard (discuss • contribs) 12:03, 15 December 2018 (UTC)}

Oh yes, apparently I was too late. JackPotte (discuss • contribs) 12:06, 15 December 2018 (UTC)

Yup, all the work has been done by PlyrStar93. Hats off to him for doing the dirty work. --Atcovi (Talk - Contribs) 15:43, 15 December 2018 (UTC)

Thanks to 1997kB who actually rolled back most of the remaining ones. PlyrStar93 (discuss • contribs) 15:46, 15 December 2018 (UTC)

My bad, missed those. Hats off to both of you lads. Much appreciated. Atcovi (Talk - Contribs) 15:51, 15 December 2018 (UTC)

Alphabet sur les transports

Bonjour JackPotte, j'aimerais savoir si je serais autorisé à faire une version anglaise de ce petit alphabet fr:Wikijunior:Alphabet des transports. Cordialement. 135.19.242.113 (discuss) 05:04, 4 January 2019 (UTC)

Temporary account lock

Hello JackPotte,

I locked your account for a couple of minutes after you blocked a steward and two enwiki admins. We've had a number of admin compromises over the last few months, so I wanted to confirm that you were still in control of your account and ensure that future damage could not be done.

After evaluating the evidence, it looks like you probably just miclicked some script while deleting talk pages. Please undo the blocks. Thanks, Ajraddatz (discuss • contribs) 18:37, 7 January 2019 (UTC)