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1984 Sydbrand lawsuit

In the gas canisters section it says, "In Sweden in 1984, carbonic acid supplier Sydbrand, primarily a supplier of fire equipment, was sued successfully by SodaStream". Shouldn't that read "successfully sued by W & A Gilbey Ltd."? Since SodaStream wasn't it's own company until 1991 and, at that time, was a subsidiary of W & A Gilbey Ltd.? I'm not an expert in Swedish law so I figured I'd ask. Robo042 (talk) 01:18, 30 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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I'm not sure where @Hyperionsteel: sourced the information about PACBI in this edit, the content that has just been removed here, but Al Jazeera's "SodaStream factory shows Palestinian Bedouins' plight" article covers this in some detail including for example BDS co-founder Omar Barghouti saying "This closure is a clear-cut BDS victory against an odiously complicit Israeli company" and explaining that "The BDS campaign against SodaStream will continue, as the company is moving to a location where it is directly colluding in the ethnic cleansing of Bedouin Palestinian citizens of Israel in the Naqab [Negev]." and that Sodastream CEO Daniel Birnbaum "admitted BDS had played some role in the move" which he described as "minimal". There is plenty of other information in this and other sources to ensure the issues are given a detail and weight that is in proper proportion to the coverage by RS, as is required by mandatory policy. Sean.hoyland - talk 11:44, 12 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

mechanism of operation

{{User:Northamerica1000]] is right--without this paragraph the article does not make sense. It was easy enough to source. DGG ( talk ) 05:53, 28 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Would someone with more experience mind reviewing this edit (https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=SodaStream&curid=4153354&diff=921269808&oldid=917931961&diffmode=source). I'm not sure about whether the wording by the editor should be used? Thank you. Daylen (talk) 04:00, 22 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Checking whether the source given uses the word "alleged" is all the review that's needed. If it does, the edit's probably fine; otherwise, it should be reverted (or another source found). In this instance, the latter seems to be the case. 78.28.45.145 (talk) 08:47, 22 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Missing end quote?

was reading the article and happened to notice a missing end quote in the controversy section. the quote as-is reads "Birnbaum said that the factories are apolitical. "We don't take sides in this conflict. He described the factory as "building bridges between us and the Palestinian population, and we provide our Palestinian employees with respectable employment opportunities and an appropriate salary and benefits"." however, i believe there should be an end quote after 'conflict' because the article switches back to referring to birnbaum in the third person, and proceeds to quote a different section from the source article, without appearing to be part of a larger quote from a different source. thanks for your time — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.43.203.181 (talk) 16:59, 4 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Bottle 'licensing'?

I'm surprised that there's no explanation as to what that means on the bottle, and it sounds dubious enough to want to know yet they don't explain what they're really claiming, specifically. Is it for having the trademark on the bottle? DOT shipping requirement (i.e. you're not supposed to ship refilled bottles unless Sodastream if I understand it right)? Can't be patents as it's even on the ancient design. Seems to run right into first sale and exhaustion issues among others, if they try to claim ownership. It's beginning to feel like the Nintendo Seal of Quality, all over again. 74.196.181.80 (talk) 20:56, 30 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi everyone. I'd like to suggest integrating the Controversies section into the History section. The current History section only covers events up to 2014, which is around when most of the events of the Controversies section occurred (apart from the "homophobia" paragraph, which is trivial and non-noteworthy in any case).

I also want to propose trimming the section itself, as the level of detail is WP:UNDUE for the article (it amounts to almost half the article by word count). Here is how I would propose trimming:

Trimmed Controversies section, to be folded into History

Boycott campaign and factory relocation

In the early 2010s, aAs part of the Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions (BDS) activist campaign launched in 2005 to pressure Israel to end the occupation of the West Bank and Gaza,^[1] SodaStream was criticized for operating its primary manufacturing plant in the Mishor Adumim industrial zone in the West Bank.^[2]^[3]^[4]^[5]

The Court of Justice of the European Union ruled in 2010 that SodaStream was not entitled to claim a "Made in Israel" exemption from EU customs payments for products manufactured in the West Bank because Israeli settlements in the West Bank are outside the territorial scope of the EC–Israel Agreement.^[6]^[7]^[8]^[9]

In January 2014, Oxfam accepted the resignation of Scarlett Johansson, an American actress, as ambassador for that organisation, a role she had held for eight years, after she became a brand ambassador for SodaStream. Oxfam has stated that "businesses, such as SodaStream, that operate in settlements further the ongoing poverty and denial of rights of the Palestinian communities that we work to support"^[10] and opposes all trade with the settlements citing their illegality under international law.^[11] Johansson reportedly resigned because of "a fundamental difference of opinion in regards to the boycott, divestment and sanctions movement".^[10] In her statement she described SodaStream as "not only committed to the environment but to building a bridge to peace between Israel and Palestine, supporting neighbours working alongside each other, receiving equal pay, equal benefits and equal rights".^[10] SodaStream CEO Daniel Birnbaum also accused Oxfam of supporting the BDS movement against Israel as a whole, a charge Oxfam denied, saying that "this is about trade from the settlements" and specific to settlements outside Israel's pre-1967 border.^[12]^[13] which Oxfam states, due to their location, pose an obstacle to any future two-state solution.^[13]

According to Birnbaum, the boycott had no impact on the growth rate of SodaStream, and he said, all SodaStream products sold in Norway, Sweden and Finland are manufactured in China.^[13]

In January 2014 a Paris court ruled that the France-Palestine Solidarity Association [fr] (AFPS), a group campaigning to remove SodaStream from stores, must compensate SodaStream €6500 because the group falsely claimed the products are sold "illegally and fraudulently" due to their use of the "Made in Israel" label while being partly manufactured in the West Bank.^[14]

Human Rights Watch stated that "It is impossible to ignore the Israeli system of unlawful discrimination, land confiscation, natural resource theft, and forced displacement of Palestinians in the occupied West Bank, where SodaStream is located".^[15]^[16]^[17] The United Church of Canada launched a campaign to boycott SodaStream products manufactured in the West Bank.^[18]

In July 2014, UK department store John Lewis removed all SodaStream products from its stores, amidst growing BDS pressure and declining sales. Its Oxford Street, London store had been the site of biweekly protests against the sale of SodaStream products. In July 2014, after two years of weekly BDS protests, SodaStream also closed its Brighton store.^[19]

Birnbaum said that the factories are apolitical and~~: "We don't take sides in this conflict." He~~ described the factory as "building bridges between us and the Palestinian population, and we provide our Palestinian employees with respectable employment opportunities and an appropriate salary and benefits".^[20] SodaStream employed 500 West Bank Palestinians.^[21] Addressing the location of SodaStream's Ma'ale Adumim plant, Birnbaum said ~~"we're here for historical reasons." T~~the choice was made by company founder Peter Weissburgh, back in the 1990s, long before SodaStream was taken over by the current owners, who appointed Birnbaum in 2007.^[22] Birnbaum said that factory presence was a reality and he would not bow to political pressure to close it: "We will not throw our employees under the bus to promote anyone's political agenda ... I just can't see how it would help the cause of the Palestinians if we fired them."^[22]

Supporters of the factory cited the West Bank's high unemployment rate and low GDP as evidence the jobs were badly needed. Opponents argued that the small number of jobs provided by the factories in the settlements did not outweigh the effect the Israeli presence had on the Palestinian economy.^[23] Others argued that SodaStream was exploiting local cheap labour.^[24]^[25] Workers' incomes at the factory were substantially above the 1450 shekel/month Palestinian Authority minimum wage.^[13]

All but one of the Palestinian employees interviewed by The Christian Science Monitor supported Johansson's stance and opposed a boycott of SodaStream, stating that a boycott would only hurt them.^[1] One Palestinian employee said he was ashamed to work for SodaStream and felt like a "slave" working on an assembly line for twelve hours a day.^[1] Another Palestinian employee interviewed by Reuters reported that: "Most of the managers are Israeli, and West Bank employees feel they can't ask for pay rises or more benefits because they can be fired and easily replaced."^[1]^[26]

In December 2014, Harvard University Dining Services halted SodaStream machine purchases for its dining facilities due to demonstrations by the Harvard College Palestine Solidarity Committee and the Harvard Islamic Society.^[27] A few days later, however, Harvard's President Drew Faust reversed the decision, claiming she had not been aware of it in the first place.^[28]^[29] Then provost, Alan Garber wrote, "Harvard University's procurement decisions should not and will not be driven by individuals' views of highly contested matters of political controversy."

~~Harvard law professor Alan Dershowitz, writing in the Jerusalem Post said that students should have boycotted the machines, rather than asking for their removal.^[30]~~

When French host Cyril Hanouna aired a homophobic prank on French TV in May 2017, SodaStream first refused to stop advertising and supporting Hanouna's program,^[31] but eventually decided to withdraw its advertising.^[32]

In July 2014, SodaStream fired 60 Palestinian workers after they filed a complaint~~had complained~~ about not receiving sufficient food to break Ramadan fasts during night shifts. The workers were not allowed to bring their own food into the plant due to Jewish dietary restrictions being enforced. According to SodaStream the workers had called for a wildcat strike,.^[33] ~~According to the workers, they were fired after filing a formal complaint.~~^[34]^[35] SodaStream claimed that the workers }}were given a hearing and ~~that they~~ were not denied severance pay.^[34]^[35]

SodaStream announced that its factory in Ma'ale Adumim would be closed by the end of 2015 in order to save $9 million in production costs. The plant's operations were transferred to a new factory in Lehavim, where it reportedly "employed "a significant number of Bedouin Arabs".^[36] The move laid off 500 Palestinian workers, although 74 Palestinian workers moved with SodaStream when it relocated. However, the Israeli government initially refused to renew the Palestinians' work permits. SodaStream protested the government decision.^[37] Around a year later, the Israeli government renewed the working permits of the 74 Palestinian workers and they returned to SodaStream.^[38]

Some news sources reported that SodaStream blamed the Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions movement (BDS) for the closing of its plant.^[39] Mahmoud Nawajaa, the BDS coordinator in Ramallah, called the loss of Palestinian jobs at SodaStream "part of the price that should be paid in the process of ending the occupation".^[37] SodaStream CEO Daniel Birnbaum blamed Benjamin Netanyahu for the Palestinian job losses. According to Birnbaum, all of the Palestinian employees had passed Israeli security clearance, but were denied permits to work after Netanyahu intervened. Birnbaum claimed that Netanyahu wanted the Palestinians fired so he could then blame BDS. Netanyahu's office denied Birnbaum's claims.^[40]

References

^ ^a ^b ^c ^d Christa Case Bryant (30 January 2014). "Palestinian workers back Scarlett Johansson's opposition to SodaStream boycott (+video)". Christian Science Monitor. Archived from the original on 16 March 2014. Retrieved 31 January 2014.
^ Levin, Jamie; Treleaven, Sarah (September 2013). "Helter Seltzer". Harper's Magazine. Archived from the original on 18 December 2014. Retrieved 18 December 2014.
^ "Sodastream setting up plant within green line". Haaretz. Archived from the original on 1 March 2014. Retrieved 18 May 2012.
^ Savodnik, Peter (20 May 2014). "Conflict bubbles: inside SodaStream's occupied territory factory". The Verge. Archived from the original on 20 May 2014. Retrieved 21 May 2014.
^ Jeffay, Nathan (30 January 2014). "SodaStream Controversy Fueled by Lies and Distortions — and Israel's Occupation". Forward. Archived from the original on 1 February 2014. Retrieved 31 January 2014.
^ "EU Eyes Exports from Israeli Settlements". Bloomberg Businessweek. Archived from the original on 18 July 2009.
^ "EU Court Allows Duties on Products from the Settlements". Spiegel Online. Archived from the original on 26 January 2012. Retrieved 18 May 2012.
^ "EU court: illegally occupied West Bank, Gaza not Israeli". UPI. Archived from the original on 15 October 2013. Retrieved 1 April 2010.
^ Richard Branson (30 January 2014). "Scarlett Johansson quits her global ambassador position at Oxfam". Euronews. Archived from the original on 7 February 2014. Retrieved 6 February 2014.
^ ^a ^b ^c "Scarlett Johansson quits Oxfam role over SodaStream row". BBC News. 30 January 2014. Archived from the original on 30 January 2014. Retrieved 20 June 2018.
^ "Scarlett Johansson quits as Oxfam ambassador". CBC News. 28 January 2014. Archived from the original on 3 February 2014. Retrieved 1 February 2014.
^ Lazaroff, Tovah. "SodaStream accuses Oxfam of funding BDS". Jerusalem Post. Archived from the original on 3 February 2014. Retrieved 6 February 2014.
^ ^a ^b ^c ^d "SodaStream Boycott: At West Bank Factory, Palestinian Workers Reveal What They Think About Their Employer". International Business Times. Archived from the original on 4 February 2014. Retrieved 6 February 2014.
^ French court rules boycott group cease denigrating campaign against SodaStream Archived 15 March 2014 at the Wayback Machine, Haaretz, 29 January 2014
^ Browning, Noah (30 January 2014). "Actress Johansson-Oxfam rift puts spotlight on West Bank". Reuters. Archived from the original on 10 March 2016. Retrieved 31 January 2014.
^ "Scarlett Johansson quits Oxfam amid SodaStream row". Channel4. 30 January 2014. Archived from the original on 2 March 2014. Retrieved 6 February 2014.
^ Browning, Noah. "Scarlett Johansson quits Oxfam over SodaStream". The Scotsman. Archived from the original on 22 February 2014. Retrieved 2 June 2014.
^ Tristin Hopper (6 December 2013). "United Church of Canada's Israeli boycott campaign an 'assault on the Jewish people,' Toronto group says". National Post. Archived from the original on 9 December 2013. Retrieved 28 April 2016.
^ "BDS Bursts SodaStream's U.K. Bubble". Haaretz. Archived from the original on 15 April 2015. Retrieved 28 April 2016.
^ "Embarrassment at Israeli President Shimon Peres' house – Al-Monitor: the Pulse of the Middle East". Al-Monitor. Archived from the original on 28 February 2014. Retrieved 28 April 2016.
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^ Mackey, Robert (30 January 2014). "Scarlett Johansson Chooses SodaStream Over Oxfam After Dispute About West Bank Factory". Archived from the original on 15 April 2021. Retrieved 31 January 2014.
^ "SodaStream Criticized For illegally occupied West Bank Plant". National Public Radio. 4 February 2013. Archived from the original on 15 October 2018. Retrieved 4 April 2018.
^ "Palestinian groups call for SodaStream boycott". Foreign Policy Magazine. 31 January 2013. Archived from the original on 5 February 2013. Retrieved 10 February 2013.
^ Browning, Noah (29 January 2014). "Israeli settlement factory sparks Super Bowl-sized controversy". Reuters. Archived from the original on 26 April 2016. Retrieved 3 February 2014.
^ "HUDS Suspends Purchases from Israeli Soda Company". Archived from the original on 16 April 2016. Retrieved 28 April 2016.
^ "Harvard students' SodaStream ban fizzles after president steps in". Fox News. 20 March 2015. Archived from the original on 24 September 2015. Retrieved 28 April 2016.
^ "Harvard Dining Services Backtracks on Decision to Pull Israeli-made Soda Equipment". www.bostonmagazine.com. Retrieved 2024-12-25.
^ "Harvard's president stops an anti-Israel boycott against SodaStream". 19 December 2014.
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I'd be happy to discuss other ideas for which parts should be trimmed and which parts shouldn't be trimmed. But I think we can all agree the current version is not ideal. Thanks! DAK1980 (talk) 08:30, 18 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

[workers-back-Scarlett-1] Christa Case Bryant (30 January 2014). "Palestinian workers back Scarlett Johansson's opposition to SodaStream boycott (+video)". Christian Science Monitor. Archived from the original on 16 March 2014. Retrieved 31 January 2014.

[2] Levin, Jamie; Treleaven, Sarah (September 2013). "Helter Seltzer". Harper's Magazine. Archived from the original on 18 December 2014. Retrieved 18 December 2014.

[3] "Sodastream setting up plant within green line". Haaretz. Archived from the original on 1 March 2014. Retrieved 18 May 2012.

[the_verge-4] Savodnik, Peter (20 May 2014). "Conflict bubbles: inside SodaStream's occupied territory factory". The Verge. Archived from the original on 20 May 2014. Retrieved 21 May 2014.

[Fwd-5] Jeffay, Nathan (30 January 2014). "SodaStream Controversy Fueled by Lies and Distortions — and Israel's Occupation". Forward. Archived from the original on 1 February 2014. Retrieved 31 January 2014.

[6] "EU Eyes Exports from Israeli Settlements". Bloomberg Businessweek. Archived from the original on 18 July 2009.

[7] "EU Court Allows Duties on Products from the Settlements". Spiegel Online. Archived from the original on 26 January 2012. Retrieved 18 May 2012.

[8] "EU court: illegally occupied West Bank, Gaza not Israeli". UPI. Archived from the original on 15 October 2013. Retrieved 1 April 2010.

[9] Richard Branson (30 January 2014). "Scarlett Johansson quits her global ambassador position at Oxfam". Euronews. Archived from the original on 7 February 2014. Retrieved 6 February 2014.

[bbc20120130-10] "Scarlett Johansson quits Oxfam role over SodaStream row". BBC News. 30 January 2014. Archived from the original on 30 January 2014. Retrieved 20 June 2018.

[11] "Scarlett Johansson quits as Oxfam ambassador". CBC News. 28 January 2014. Archived from the original on 3 February 2014. Retrieved 1 February 2014.

[12] Lazaroff, Tovah. "SodaStream accuses Oxfam of funding BDS". Jerusalem Post. Archived from the original on 3 February 2014. Retrieved 6 February 2014.

[ibtimesemployer-13] "SodaStream Boycott: At West Bank Factory, Palestinian Workers Reveal What They Think About Their Employer". International Business Times. Archived from the original on 4 February 2014. Retrieved 6 February 2014.

[14] French court rules boycott group cease denigrating campaign against SodaStream Archived 15 March 2014 at the Wayback Machine, Haaretz, 29 January 2014

[Reuters-15] Browning, Noah (30 January 2014). "Actress Johansson-Oxfam rift puts spotlight on West Bank". Reuters. Archived from the original on 10 March 2016. Retrieved 31 January 2014.

[C4-16] "Scarlett Johansson quits Oxfam amid SodaStream row". Channel4. 30 January 2014. Archived from the original on 2 March 2014. Retrieved 6 February 2014.

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